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IASA: interruptible as soon as - the frame where you can act out of the move's animation before it is overIASA into next jab: When, if you've pressed A before that, the next jab will come outf after end to n jab: Frames after the end of the animation where pressing A still leads into the next jab.Notes:A presses that are started during hitlag don't lead into the next jab even if they are held through hitlag, otherwise the A press that leads into the next jab can happen any time during the jab animation. F after end to n jab is avaliable if the animation ends or if it is interrupted.Getting the Gentleman Every TimeRelease A During HitlagThe A press that starts either jab 1 or 2 is held until hitlag starts and then released during hitlag. The third A press is either held until the end of the third jab or is held until hitlag start and then released during hitlag.

Here is some example frame data:Done with jab oneJab 1 Frame 0 - Jab 1 Frame 3: A (Frame 3 is repeated 3 times because of hitlag, 3 frame window. This was released during the first frame of hitlag)Jab 1 Frame 4: A (After hitlag ends)Jab 2 Frame 1 - Jab 3 Frame 21: AInterrupt with anythingDone with jab twoJab 1 Frame 0: AJab 1 Frame 2 - Jab 2 Frame 4: A (Frame 4 is repeated 4 times, 4 frame window)Jab 2 Frame 5 - Jab 3 Frame 21: AInterrupt with anythingAnother property of this is that you don't have to wait for a jab to end to get a perfect gentleman if one of the jabs misses.Walk Out of Either JabInterrupting either jab by walking allows you to cancel the animation much sooner than if you let it end by waiting. If one of the jabs is allowed to end or is canceled you will not enter rapid jabs.Done with jab oneJab 1 Frame 0: AJab 1 Frame 1 - Jab 1 Frame 15: Hold forwardWalkSlow 1: AJab 2 Frame 2 - Jab 3 Frame 21: AInterrupt with anythingDone with jab twoJab 1 Frame 0: AJab 1 Frame 2: AJab 2 Frame 1 - Jab 2 Frame 17: Hold forwardWalkSlow 1 - Jab 3 Frame 21: AInterrupt with anythingHow to Apply This Information in Real TimeBasically hit a + a + hold A. To have the greatest chance to get the gentleman you want to time your presses carefully or walk out of one of the jabs. When aiming to release during hitlag press the first A for 3 - 6 frames which is around short hop timing but a frame or two longer. In my opinion trying to get the first press is far superior to trying to do it with the second.

The second A press is harder to get because it can start at different times.Walking out of one of the jabs will be consistent, but it is a fair bit slower, and possibly predictable if you always walk out of one or the other. I think this is easier to do with jab one because there is a larger window to link into the next jab, but it is very doable on either. This is an easy 100% consistent gentleman and you do not have to hit the opponent to get it.Wrap UpThat's it! Hopefully this guide helps you understand how to get consistant gentlemans!To look at the functions governing this behaviour please read Achilles' post on the subject slightly farther down the thread or click this linkDissecting Common Ideas For How Gentleman Works. First off, Magus's idea found here: This idea hasn't held up for me when I've tested it. Here is my most damning evidence - in this video I mess up the perfect gentleman by inputting the first A for two frames, then I wait to press A until the frame before jab one ends, jab 2 starts and I wait until the frame before it ends to input A for jab 3, finally I hold A thru jab 3 but rapid punches start anyway.

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I have tested this in other ways that weren't recorded like doing the same thing in the video without hitting anyone (I found that it didn't work) and only hitting two of the jabs. Spacing the presses didn't work there either.The Wiki. I'm having difficulty swallowing that the only way to not get rapid jabs and not let your jab animation finish is to press A for only 1 frame.

That is like a super hard short hop, twice. Experience tells me there is something in between the perfect gentleman you're describing and letting jab 1 and jab 2 finish. I can't prove it though atm. I always press A A A (hold) and it usually works as long as I hit something.

The only explanation by your post is that I've been hitting A only 1 frame, but that doesn't make sense. I'll see if I can prove it later but what you're saying doesn't add up for me now though you may be right. IASA: interruptible as soon as - the frame where you can act out of the move's animation before it is overIASA into next jab: Where, if you've pressed A before that, the next jab will come outf after end to n jab: Frames after the end of the animation where pressing A still leads into the next jab.Notes:A presses that are started during hitstun don't lead into the next jab even if they are held through hitstun and the A press that leads into the next jab can happen any time during the jab animation.The Perfect GentlemanThe perfect gentleman has to hit something on all three jabs. Due to region locking and people being used to their version, amongst other reasons, you will never see PAL being played in NTSC region tournaments or vice versa.Basically: it buffs a lot of the low tiers without bringing them even remotely close to being viable, while nerfing most of the top tiers and Ganon/Link/Samus/Mario. A lot of the nerfed characters actually end up with better matchup spreads than in NTSC because the characters who counter them have been nerfed too. The changes are significant, but not game-changing. So if I understand this correctly, if I do it with jab1, there is a 1 frame delay of initiation of the jab, which hits on frame 3, with 3 frames of hitstun.

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As long as I've released A during this hitstun (which happens on frames 4-7 after the actual press) then hold A for the 3rd hit, I will gentleman.With jab2, even if jab 1 whiffs, as long as I've released A during its 4 frame hit stun, and hold A during the 3rd jab, I will gentleman. Is that right?Basically, you want to time the release of A for either jab1 or jab2 during the actual hit, then hold A for the 3rd hit?

The Gentleman. General.Z button = A button + analog L/RAction State (slang):Attack11 (Jab1)Attack12 (Jab2)Attack13 (Jab3)Attack100Start (Rapid Jabs)Interrupt Function:. A function specific to an action state that is executed once per frame while in the action state animation. Interrupt functions generally handle monitoring controller inputs to put a character into a new action state, and to handle any associated flags.

Only one interrupt function is executed per character per frame. If a character is in Wait and the Wait interrupt function noticed an instant A button press and no joystick input, the character will be immediately put into Jab1. The Wait interrupt function will then break, and the interrupt function entered into next frame will be that of Jab1. Interrupt functions are not executed during hitlag. Specific.Jab2/3 Link Window:. The number of frames, since the start of the previous jab action state, available to link into Jab2/3.

This window exists to allow successful jab links even after the natural transition from Jab1/2 - Wait has occured. The link window is a timer variable that decrements 1 per frame, if not already zero, during the interrupt functions for the Wait, WalkSlow/Middle/Fast, and Jab1/2/3 action states. For the Jab1/2/3 interrupt, this timer decrement occurs after the rapid jab counter check, mentioned below. Jab link window timer is destroyed (set to 0) upon any action state change except the following: Wait, WalkSlow/Middle/Fast. So IASA'ing a jab into Squat, for example, will remove the ability to link the next jab. Jab2 and Jab3 link window values for Captain Falcon are both 24 frames.Rapid Jab Counter:. The counter value that must meet a certain threshold before entering the Rapid Jab action state from Jab3.

Counter is reset to 0 upon entering the Jab1 action state. The Jab1/Jab2/Jab3 interrupt functions will increment the rapid jab counter by 1 if an instant A button press is noticed this frame, or if the A button is released this frame (so A is not being pressed this frame, but was last frame). This rapid jab counter check is done before the check to put the character into Jab2/Jab3. Rapid jab counter is not incremented for the instant A press to enter Jab2/Jab3 from the Wait/Walk action states.

The minimum rapid jab counter value necessary to make Captain Falcon enter the Rapid Jab action state is 4. For PAL, it is 7.-Additional thoughts regarding the logic above:. Z button can be swapped for any of the 'A button' statements above, except when linking a jab from the Wait/Walk action states (this will obviously make you grab instead). Because interrupt functions are not executed during hitlag, an instant A press or A release during this time will not increment the rapid jab counter.

When hitting an opponent, releasing A during hitlag is the best approach, as outlined in the OP. Although it is possible to Gentleman with an A button release during Jab3, there is basically no reason to ever not hold A throughout this entire animation so as to not increment the rapid jab counter. Remember that the rapid jab counter check is executed every frame of Jab3 during its interrupt function. So even if you 'perform' a Gentleman, but accidentally release the A button a single frame before Jab3 animation's last (with rapid jab counter currently at 3 - which is common), a rapid jab action state will occur. For this reason, I would also recommend always holding down or forwards to IASA Squat (crouch cancel safety) or Walk out of a Jab3 Gentleman.

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Once the IASA flag is enabled during Jab3, the interrupt function will essentially be an exact copy of Wait's interrupt function, which is not the case for Jab1 and Jab2 that have more unique interrupt functions. Magus wasn't really wrong, he was just speaking vaguely and practically. I understand what he means now after fully grasping the mechanic.Nice post. I was initially confused by your frame data at the top, but now see that you were just using a different convention than what is used in the Hitbox-and-Frame-Data project (stickied thread in this forum), and that your IASA numbers are Develop Mode action state display text based and one less than the actual first IASA frame using this convention - might want to make a note of this somewhere by that picture.